{"id":1184,"date":"2020-06-29T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-06-29T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/tutor.engoo.com\/blog\/?p=1184"},"modified":"2022-08-12T03:15:06","modified_gmt":"2022-08-12T03:15:06","slug":"nonstandard-english-grammar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/tutor.engoo.com\/blog\/curiosity\/nonstandard-english-grammar\/","title":{"rendered":"When \u201cIncorrect\u201d Grammar Makes More Sense"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>English learners often say things like \u201cWait me\u201d or \u201cWhat time it is?\u201d After correcting mistakes like these for the 157838901st time, I started to question why \u201cwait\u201d <em>needs<\/em> to be followed by \u201cfor\u201d and why questions need inversion. \ud83e\udd14<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At a certain point, I realized that these features of English grammar don\u2019t <em>need<\/em> to exist. \u201cWait me\u201d and \u201cWhat time it is?\u201d are perfectly understandable, not to mention more efficient than the \u201ccorrect\u201d versions of these sentences.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This may sound blasphemous to many of us, but let\u2019s take a break from being Standard English teachers for just one moment and see how its \u201cnon-standard\u201d varieties sometimes do a better job of making grammatical sense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Unnecessary Grammar<\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>First and foremost, Standard English grammar can be unnecessary. The -s that we add to verbs following \u201che,\u201d \u201cshe,\u201d and \u201cit\u201d is a good example. \u201cI dance,\u201d \u201cyou dance,\u201d \u201cwe dance,\u201d \u201cthey dance\u201d is correct. Yet, \u201che dance\u201d is wrong. But what is the point of making an exception just for \u201che,\u201d \u201cshe,\u201d and \u201cit\u201d?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It turns out that there are actually dialects of English that don\u2019t bother to make this exception. In certain dialects of English in the U.K., people would say \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/varieng.helsinki.fi\/series\/volumes\/04\/articleC_zero_suffix.html\">she dance<\/a>\u201d instead of \u201cshe dances.\u201d And in other dialects, people add an -s to all present tense verbs!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\" datatext=\"\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"618\" height=\"363\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.blog.engoo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2020\/06\/09021057\/he-she-dance.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1187\" srcset=\"https:\/\/assets.blog.engoo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2020\/06\/09021057\/he-she-dance.png 618w, https:\/\/assets.blog.engoo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2020\/06\/09021057\/he-she-dance-300x176.png 300w, https:\/\/assets.blog.engoo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2020\/06\/09021057\/he-she-dance-403x236.png 403w, https:\/\/assets.blog.engoo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2020\/06\/09021057\/he-she-dance-293x171.png 293w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 618px) 100vw, 618px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>As an English tutor, I almost wish these versions of English had become the standard, so I wouldn\u2019t have to keep correcting students. \ud83d\ude05<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another thing that Standard English could simplify is its questions. I\u2019m sure we\u2019ve all spent more time than we\u2019d like correcting questions like, \u201cWhere do you from?\u201d or \u201cWhere are you come from?\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It turns out that English dialects have different ways of asking questions. In Scottish English, it\u2019s OK to ask a question with \u201chave\u201d without using the helping verb \u201cdo.\u201d In other words, \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com.tw\/books?id=rCFHDwAAQBAJ&amp;pg=PA169&amp;lpg=PA169&amp;dq=%22had+they+a+good+day%22&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=q2uPEBPzB1&amp;sig=ACfU3U0oF8-K4vNxsbw3IFIzUNoURNegQw&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;redir_esc=y#v=onepage&amp;q=%22had%20they%20a%20good%20day%22&amp;f=false\">Had they a good day?<\/a>\u201d is perfectly fine; no need for \u201cDid they have a good day?\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yet another unnecessary feature of Standard English is the need to use the verb \u201cbe.\u201d Interestingly, in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/satocenter\/langnet\/definitions\/aave.html\">African American Vernacular English<\/a> (AAVE),* <a href=\"https:\/\/ygdp.yale.edu\/phenomena\/null-copula\">the verb \u201cbe\u201d is often omitted<\/a>. For example, in Standard English grammar, we abbreviate&nbsp;\u201cshe is\u201d to \u201cshe\u2019s,\u201d but AAVE speakers realized that they could make it even shorter: \u201cshe pretty.\u201d<br><br>*<em>Note: \"African American Vernacular English\" does not refer to English as it is spoken by all African Americans<\/em>.<em> AAVE is \"<a href=\"https:\/\/news.stanford.edu\/2015\/09\/10\/vernacular-language-rickford-091015\/\">most commonly spoken today by urban, working-class African Americans<\/a>\" and is also <a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/publication\/292844216_Toward_a_Description_of_African_American_Vernacular_English_Dialect_Regions_Using_Black_Twitter\">rich in variation<\/a> of its own.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Imprecise Grammar<\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>There are also many aspects of Standard English grammar that are imprecise. The most well-known example is the lack of a separate pronoun for the plural \u201cyou.\u201d Let\u2019s say you were speaking to an audience or a group of friends. How would you address them? \u201cYou all\u201d? \u201cEveryone here today\u201d?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Most languages (e.g. Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Germanic and Romance languages) have a separate pronoun for the plural \u201cyou.\u201d However, this pronoun does not exist in English \u2026 at least not in Standard English.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\" datatext=\"\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"624\" height=\"363\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.blog.engoo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2020\/06\/09021105\/you-yall.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1188\" srcset=\"https:\/\/assets.blog.engoo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2020\/06\/09021105\/you-yall.png 624w, https:\/\/assets.blog.engoo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2020\/06\/09021105\/you-yall-300x175.png 300w, https:\/\/assets.blog.engoo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2020\/06\/09021105\/you-yall-293x171.png 293w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 624px) 100vw, 624px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Many dialects came up with solutions for this. For example, Southern U.S. English-speakers have \u201cyou all\u201d or \u201cy\u2019all\" for short. In Pittsburgh (a town in Pennsylvania), people say <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/Ah9OvDIg8sE?t=174\">\u201cyinz\u201d or \u201cyunz\u201d<\/a>! And now many English-speakers around the world have started saying \u201cyou guys\u201d or \u201cyou all,\u201d though these aren\u2019t proper Standard English.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another imprecise aspect of Standard English grammar is that sentences like \u201cPat is happy\u201d can mean both \u201cPat is happy now. (He got a lot of Christmas presents.)\u201d or \u201cPat is usually happy.\u201d When the verb is \u201cbe,\u201d we need to use the context to tell if the speaker is talking about now or in general.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Speakers of African American Vernacular English, however, distinguish between these two versions of \u201cbe\u201d with grammar. \u201cPat happy\u201d means \u201cPat is happy now\u201d whereas \u201cPat be happy\u201d means \u201cPat is usually happy.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\ud83d\udc4b That\u2019s it for now!<\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course, there are also aspects of English grammar that make me grateful. For example, I thank my lucky stars that English does not have grammatical gender.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\" datatext=\"\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"622\" height=\"250\" src=\"https:\/\/assets.blog.engoo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2020\/06\/09021053\/go-english.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1186\" srcset=\"https:\/\/assets.blog.engoo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2020\/06\/09021053\/go-english.png 622w, https:\/\/assets.blog.engoo.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2020\/06\/09021053\/go-english-300x121.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 622px) 100vw, 622px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>But, it would be nice if Standard English grammar learned a little from its \u201cnon-standard\u201d cousins!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>English learners often say things like \u201cWait me\u201d or \u201cWhat time it is?\u201d After correcting mistakes like these for 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